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	<title>Comments on: The Global Community</title>
	<link>http://www.baldowski.org/2007/12/31/the-global-community/</link>
	<description>Brian Baldowski</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian Baldowski</title>
		<link>http://www.baldowski.org/2007/12/31/the-global-community/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Baldowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don't have the time to drive to Chattanooga and bash you over the head is all.  Maybe I will get Phillip to do it.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t have the time to drive to Chattanooga and bash you over the head is all.  Maybe I will get Phillip to do it.  <img src='http://www.baldowski.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.baldowski.org/2007/12/31/the-global-community/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.baldowski.org/2007/12/31/the-global-community/#comment-19</guid>
		<description>P.S. Aren't you glad we can discuss this in a civilized manner and neither of us feels like we have to beat the crap out of the other to force them to agree with us? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Aren&#8217;t you glad we can discuss this in a civilized manner and neither of us feels like we have to beat the crap out of the other to force them to agree with us? <img src='http://www.baldowski.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.baldowski.org/2007/12/31/the-global-community/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.baldowski.org/2007/12/31/the-global-community/#comment-18</guid>
		<description>Well, if my neighbor came over and painted my house, I would respond. I could say "I'd go kick his ___" but I might not do that, since he's a nice guy.

OK, I know the analogy is going to break down here some. Let's say that everybody who lives in my house knows karate. If my neighbor comes over and tries to paint the house, he's going to find some serious resistance. Yes, I know you could say "what if nobody was home" but the fact of the matter is that in the "house" of the US, there will always be somebody home.

Well, here we go. Let's say I have my yard fenced and two dobermans in the yard. My neighbor is going to think twice about trying to paint the house. He'll have to decide whether it's worth it to try. He probably knows he's going to have to kill my dogs or something.

In any case, the analogy *does* break down. A country is made up of thousands or millions of people. Some people are more aggressive than others. Some want us to enforce our will on other countries. Etc. Etc. Etc. There probably isn't any adequate way to model this.

Ultimately, I think our difference of opinion on this matter will never be resolved ... there will always be people who are more like me and people who are more like you. The fact of the matter is that you are essentially right that elements in any country want to paint their neighbor's house. We want our neighbors to be like us. We want other nations to buy our stuff and support our industry. Their are a million economic reasons to go to war with another country (and I do believe that most wars have their genesis in economic issues).

Plus, we can never just "go back to the way it was", say, in the early 1800s when we really handn't bothered any other nations. If we packed up every piece of equipment and military person and brought them home, we'd still have people peeved at us, and there would always be the chance they'd use that as an excuse to pester us or invade or something.

I say our best course of action is to come home and prepare our citizens to defend themselves against an incursion. You say we have to take some proactive action to deter them outside of our borders (if I read you right, anyway).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if my neighbor came over and painted my house, I would respond. I could say &#8220;I&#8217;d go kick his ___&#8221; but I might not do that, since he&#8217;s a nice guy.</p>
<p>OK, I know the analogy is going to break down here some. Let&#8217;s say that everybody who lives in my house knows karate. If my neighbor comes over and tries to paint the house, he&#8217;s going to find some serious resistance. Yes, I know you could say &#8220;what if nobody was home&#8221; but the fact of the matter is that in the &#8220;house&#8221; of the US, there will always be somebody home.</p>
<p>Well, here we go. Let&#8217;s say I have my yard fenced and two dobermans in the yard. My neighbor is going to think twice about trying to paint the house. He&#8217;ll have to decide whether it&#8217;s worth it to try. He probably knows he&#8217;s going to have to kill my dogs or something.</p>
<p>In any case, the analogy <b>does</b> break down. A country is made up of thousands or millions of people. Some people are more aggressive than others. Some want us to enforce our will on other countries. Etc. Etc. Etc. There probably isn&#8217;t any adequate way to model this.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I think our difference of opinion on this matter will never be resolved &#8230; there will always be people who are more like me and people who are more like you. The fact of the matter is that you are essentially right that elements in any country want to paint their neighbor&#8217;s house. We want our neighbors to be like us. We want other nations to buy our stuff and support our industry. Their are a million economic reasons to go to war with another country (and I do believe that most wars have their genesis in economic issues).</p>
<p>Plus, we can never just &#8220;go back to the way it was&#8221;, say, in the early 1800s when we really handn&#8217;t bothered any other nations. If we packed up every piece of equipment and military person and brought them home, we&#8217;d still have people peeved at us, and there would always be the chance they&#8217;d use that as an excuse to pester us or invade or something.</p>
<p>I say our best course of action is to come home and prepare our citizens to defend themselves against an incursion. You say we have to take some proactive action to deter them outside of our borders (if I read you right, anyway).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Baldowski</title>
		<link>http://www.baldowski.org/2007/12/31/the-global-community/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Baldowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem though is what if your neighbor came over and painted your house and your trees.  I know that is what we are doing overseas but I have no doubt if we followed your strategy we would begin to have other people encroach on our own property.  It all goes back to my veiw of human nature though.  I beleive all men are inherently evil and part of that is greed.  We take as much as we want from the weaker people.  It is the same with countries.  The strong take from the weak.  If ever country was content to sit in their own borders and never invade other countries that would be one thing, but I beleive every country has a desire to invade their neighbors and change the color of their garage, if you will.  It is not right but it the way of the world.  The only thing I pray for is that the US being the stronger country, and in my opinion the most open-minded country, will not try to change too much but set right any wrong that has occured.  I am not sure I am expressing my opinion in the most coherent manner.  But there it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem though is what if your neighbor came over and painted your house and your trees.  I know that is what we are doing overseas but I have no doubt if we followed your strategy we would begin to have other people encroach on our own property.  It all goes back to my veiw of human nature though.  I beleive all men are inherently evil and part of that is greed.  We take as much as we want from the weaker people.  It is the same with countries.  The strong take from the weak.  If ever country was content to sit in their own borders and never invade other countries that would be one thing, but I beleive every country has a desire to invade their neighbors and change the color of their garage, if you will.  It is not right but it the way of the world.  The only thing I pray for is that the US being the stronger country, and in my opinion the most open-minded country, will not try to change too much but set right any wrong that has occured.  I am not sure I am expressing my opinion in the most coherent manner.  But there it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.baldowski.org/2007/12/31/the-global-community/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with you that the world is all interconnected and such, but I disagree that it gives us (as in the US government) the need and right to interfere elsewhere. How would we feel if Iran (assuming they were able to do so successfully ... I know this is a stretch) were able to come over here and interfere in our elections and get, say, Hillary Clinton elected if the clear electoral choice otherwise would have been Mitt Romney ... just because it was better for them economically or politically? We'd be peeved.

We have to think about how we'd respond if somebody else treated us the way we're treating another country. If we did that, I think we'd act a lot differently.

Now, just to be clear, I'm not opposed to private organizations giving aid or working in other countries when there is a need, disaster, etc. That I think is part of the free market. But the government should focus its interventionist energies within our borders only (and as little as possible at that) and pursue non-interventionist diplomacy with the rest of the world.

I look at it as a "good neighbors" kind of policy. I let my neighbor paint his house whatever color he wants, I let him plant whatever trees he wants in his yard, and he can park his car wherever he wants as far as I'm concerned, and he lets me do the same.

I know you think I'm naive, but I honestly feel that if we pursued a policy like that, and didn't interfere with our citizens' right to bear arms, and we took our own self-defense seriously, if anybody decided to meddle with us, we could seriously kick their butts back to where they came from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with you that the world is all interconnected and such, but I disagree that it gives us (as in the US government) the need and right to interfere elsewhere. How would we feel if Iran (assuming they were able to do so successfully &#8230; I know this is a stretch) were able to come over here and interfere in our elections and get, say, Hillary Clinton elected if the clear electoral choice otherwise would have been Mitt Romney &#8230; just because it was better for them economically or politically? We&#8217;d be peeved.</p>
<p>We have to think about how we&#8217;d respond if somebody else treated us the way we&#8217;re treating another country. If we did that, I think we&#8217;d act a lot differently.</p>
<p>Now, just to be clear, I&#8217;m not opposed to private organizations giving aid or working in other countries when there is a need, disaster, etc. That I think is part of the free market. But the government should focus its interventionist energies within our borders only (and as little as possible at that) and pursue non-interventionist diplomacy with the rest of the world.</p>
<p>I look at it as a &#8220;good neighbors&#8221; kind of policy. I let my neighbor paint his house whatever color he wants, I let him plant whatever trees he wants in his yard, and he can park his car wherever he wants as far as I&#8217;m concerned, and he lets me do the same.</p>
<p>I know you think I&#8217;m naive, but I honestly feel that if we pursued a policy like that, and didn&#8217;t interfere with our citizens&#8217; right to bear arms, and we took our own self-defense seriously, if anybody decided to meddle with us, we could seriously kick their butts back to where they came from.</p>
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